Small carry box located in front of tub

Currently, when we reach a destination, we reach into our TV and locate the odds and ends needed.  ( the ball leveler, wheel locks, hitch lock, yellow stabilizer pads, jack wheel).  Now...  I was thinking....  How about putting all of these items in one easy to get to space.  Make it well strapped on of course, and easy to put on and take off.    I can’t think that these items would affect my tongue weight...  I took a picture with a storage box in the location.  This isn’t the one I would use, but I’d have to find one to fit a bal leveler. 


Terry & Jody...  2016 Dodge Ram 1500
2016 LG T@B Max S
T@bbey  Road   
Appleton,  WI



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  • TwojgramsTwojgrams Posts: 691Associate Member
    @TerryV6 our Brahma wheel lock and Bal leveler weight 30 and 18#'s respectively. 48#s could make a difference for our tongue weight. Sometimes we carry 2 6 gal water jugs on the platform so that's ~96#s alone. Propane, battery and other miscellany do add up.
    John, Judi, Guinness & OD
    T@Bit@t 2015 S Max Outback/2006 V8 4Runner 


  • TerryV6TerryV6 Posts: 562Member
    Thanks... that’s why I’m putting it out there...
    Terry & Jody...  2016 Dodge Ram 1500
    2016 LG T@B Max S
    T@bbey  Road   
    Appleton,  WI



  • DurangoTaBDurangoTaB Posts: 695Member
    I agree with Terry...I weighed our tongue weight a few weeks ago (we’ve also put the spare up there) and it was a little over 200lbs...not sure I want to put much more for fear of taking weight off the front tires of my Tacoma. 

    J.D. & Sue

    Durango, CO    2014/15 S M@xx :  "Dory's HabiT@B"  Keep on swimming...

  • TerryV6TerryV6 Posts: 562Member
    That’s Twojgrams that you are agreeing with... I don’t have an opinion yet... That’s why I’m asking...  
    Terry & Jody...  2016 Dodge Ram 1500
    2016 LG T@B Max S
    T@bbey  Road   
    Appleton,  WI



  • TwojgramsTwojgrams Posts: 691Associate Member
    @TerryV6 with our Outback dry wt of 1860, allowable tongue wt of 10-15% is 186-279 #s. We usually have to work at making it to the 186, so it may not be an issue for you. I love your idea, and hope you'll add a photo of your solution if you go that route.
    John, Judi, Guinness & OD
    T@Bit@t 2015 S Max Outback/2006 V8 4Runner 


  • GibWGibW Posts: 37Member
    That's the box that we use - it works great. Just use it to hold misc gear for hookup and camp - nothing too heavy. Trying to keep tongue weight around 180.
    2017 T@B Max-S, silver & silver, towed by a Titanium Silver 2018 Kia Sorento V-6, Twin Cities MN
  • TerryV6TerryV6 Posts: 562Member
    GibW said:
    That's the box that we use - it works great. Just use it to hold misc gear for hookup and camp - nothing too heavy. Trying to keep tongue weight around 180.
    How do you attach or fasten it?  Could you take a picture?
    Terry & Jody...  2016 Dodge Ram 1500
    2016 LG T@B Max S
    T@bbey  Road   
    Appleton,  WI



  • rkj__rkj__ Posts: 292Member
    I agree with Terry...I weighed our tongue weight a few weeks ago (we’ve also put the spare up there) and it was a little over 200lbs...not sure I want to put much more for fear of taking weight off the front tires of my Tacoma. 
    I don't think you need to be afraid of more than 200lb tongue weight on a Tacoma.  I'm not sure the details of your specific model, but current models can handle 350lb or more tongue weight.

    A pickup truck is light in the rear when unloaded.  The first couple hundred pounds you add, just starts to balance out your front / rear weight balance. 

    My Canyon rides much nicer with 200lb in the bed than when empty. 
    2016 T@b 320 CS-S - 2008 GMC Canyon - St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
  • ScottGScottG Posts: 1,777Moderator
    Agreed. Your Ram 1500 should have no problem with the added tongue weight. For handling purposes, you don't want the tongue weight too heavy in relation to the weight of the trailer (I think around 15% is the rule of thumb), but I doubt adding the box will do that unless your planning to fill it with gold bricks.

    I have my spare tire relocated to the tongue and it weighs out at just over 200lbs. It pulls fine with my Nissan Frontier V6. 
    2015 T@B S
  • TerryV6TerryV6 Posts: 562Member
    Do you think a ratchet strap would be a good option?
    Terry & Jody...  2016 Dodge Ram 1500
    2016 LG T@B Max S
    T@bbey  Road   
    Appleton,  WI



  • tabsteltabstel Posts: 7Member
    If possible, could you show pic on how the tire was mounted? Did you have to drill holes in the diamond plate cover?
  • GibWGibW Posts: 37Member
    Hi Terry - it's attached using extra long cable ties (UV resistant). I put a small piece of bike inner tube under each corner for a bit of cushioning. On the inside of the box I placed two vinyl stringers running the long way for extra stiffness since the box wasn't especially stiff. It's held up well on over 4,000 miles of travel and is very watertight too. Hope the pics work for you - I can retake during the day if you need. 
    2017 T@B Max-S, silver & silver, towed by a Titanium Silver 2018 Kia Sorento V-6, Twin Cities MN
  • TerryV6TerryV6 Posts: 562Member
    tabstel said:
    If possible, could you show pic on how the tire was mounted? Did you have to drill holes in the diamond plate cover?
    I made some small cuts...


    Terry & Jody...  2016 Dodge Ram 1500
    2016 LG T@B Max S
    T@bbey  Road   
    Appleton,  WI



  • ScottGScottG Posts: 1,777Moderator
    TerryV6 said:
    Do you think a ratchet strap would be a good option?
    Don't see why not, provided it's retained in some way so it can't slip off the box or slide forward on the frame (which would cause it to loosen up). I'd probably use two, but I'm a little AR about that sort of thing...

    I've carted two kayaks thousands of miles held to the roof of my truck cap with ratcheting straps. They are strong and can be easily snugged up if they stretch a little under use. 
    2015 T@B S
  • KBaggins1KBaggins1 Posts: 135Member
    We recently mounted a similar box to the tongue of our trailer. Brand name is action packer. After our electrical cord managed to slither out of the OEM box and got destroyed because we dragged it for about 10 miles before somebody waved us to pull over we decided a box with a bottom would be a good idea. It is mounted with 4 1/4" bolts that go in to threaded holes that we put in to the tongue. We have the now repaired cord and fresh water hoses and water filter in there now. Just got back from an 8000 KM trip to the Denver CO area and back and it worked great.
    2014 T@B M@XS;  2017 Ford Transit Low Roof, Reg. Wheel Base
  • rcuomorcuomo Posts: 64Member
    Hi GibW,
    What make is the box that you are using? Where did you source it from? Thanks, Ray
    2018 Tab 320S
    TV 2017- Honda Ridgeline RTL-E
    Home Base- Huntington LI
  • JanetEDJanetED Posts: 8Member
    Not sure this is the right thread but I have a question about tongue weight.  Does it matter if the above box is mounted on the tongue or carried behind the axle of the TV?  Don't both contribute to tongue weight?
    Janet
    2017 T@B Outback
    TV 2012 Nissan Frontier
    Tehachapi, CA
  • ScottGScottG Posts: 1,777Moderator
    JanetED said:
    Not sure this is the right thread but I have a question about tongue weight.  Does it matter if the above box is mounted on the tongue or carried behind the axle of the TV?  Don't both contribute to tongue weight?
    Yes. Anything carried ahead of the axle will increase tongue weight, anything carried behind the axle will decrease tongue weight.

    Everybody's loading situation is different, so the only way to know how something affects your is to weigh your own trailer tongue with the camper packed for your usual travel conditions.
    2015 T@B S
  • JanetEDJanetED Posts: 8Member
    Thank you.  I was thinking of adding a box similar to the situation above.  I currently carry this stuff in the back of my TV (behind the axle) therefore there should be little difference in my tongue weight if I move it (?). I am guessing that the distance from the fulcrum makes some difference but I wouldn't think that much.
    Janet
    2017 T@B Outback
    TV 2012 Nissan Frontier
    Tehachapi, CA
  • ScottGScottG Posts: 1,777Moderator
    JanetED said:
    Thank you.  I was thinking of adding a box similar to the situation above.  I currently carry this stuff in the back of my TV (behind the axle) therefore there should be little difference in my tongue weight if I move it (?). I am guessing that the distance from the fulcrum makes some difference but I wouldn't think that much.
    The magnitude of the effect of moving weight from the back to the front depends on how much weight is being redistributed. Just remember the effect is compounded if you are reducing tail weight at the same time you add tongue weight. For example, moving 10lbs from behind the axle to in front of the axle could add 20lbs to your tongue weight.

    The actual difference being a function of several factors, including distance from the fulcrum. However, like you, I wouldn't think too much about it when I could just measure the tongue weight with a scale. I think the rule of thumb is to shoot for 10-15% of the loaded trailer weight.
    2015 T@B S
  • TerryV6TerryV6 Posts: 562Member
    I just went with the smaller action packer... Big enough for my essential setup items...  not my bal leveler however...

     
    Terry & Jody...  2016 Dodge Ram 1500
    2016 LG T@B Max S
    T@bbey  Road   
    Appleton,  WI



  • ScottGScottG Posts: 1,777Moderator
    @TerryV6, that looks like a handy set-up. I may do something similar in the future to accommodate chocks, hoses, etc., or perhaps a beefed up battery arrangement.

    As per my previous post, just be sure you somehow prevent that strap from creeping forward on the V-shaped trailer tongue and allowing the whole assembly to loosen up. I have visions of expensive camping equipment being "redistributed" along the side of a bumpy road!  :-0 
    2015 T@B S
  • TerryV6TerryV6 Posts: 562Member
    I took your advice when you posted last.  I have the great mod from Popt@b.  The underside has the grating material.  I mounted two handles on it, one on each side and ran my strap thru them...  Can’t even see them...
    Terry & Jody...  2016 Dodge Ram 1500
    2016 LG T@B Max S
    T@bbey  Road   
    Appleton,  WI



  • GibWGibW Posts: 37Member
    rcuomo - Sorry for the delay in responding. The box is made by Plano. I think I bought it at Menards (a Midwest home improvement store) for less than $10. I've seen them at Walmart and other retailers. I'm super pleased with how well it works to hold misc hookup gear that I want to access quickly. Also it can be removed and makes no permanent marks on the trailer.
    2017 T@B Max-S, silver & silver, towed by a Titanium Silver 2018 Kia Sorento V-6, Twin Cities MN
  • TerryV6TerryV6 Posts: 562Member
    Handles under tongue..


    Terry & Jody...  2016 Dodge Ram 1500
    2016 LG T@B Max S
    T@bbey  Road   
    Appleton,  WI



  • libertyolibertyo Posts: 32Member
    The 2 storage tubs pictured in this thread seem to be the only readily available choices.  Already have the Plano storage tubs - just a bit large to fit onto my newly installed outback platform, action packer a bit small to fit everything. Does anyone have a sturdy storage tub sized right in between these two? Why o why do I always want something that doesn't quite exist... 
    "Bella"  2016 T@b maxs blue, towed by '18 Chevy Colorado ZR2 duramax diesel - yes NEW baby, accompanied by the Red dog
    Rural Liberty Hill, TX, near Austin
  • TerryV6TerryV6 Posts: 562Member
    I did consider these:


    Wolfpack by frontrunner
    Terry & Jody...  2016 Dodge Ram 1500
    2016 LG T@B Max S
    T@bbey  Road   
    Appleton,  WI



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